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  • #46
    Oh, Foxy's post reminded me -- somehow I think the people who are still clinging desperately to the Dawson-hating aspects of DC-fandomonium seem more sad to me than the people who are still clinging desperately to the Pacey/Josh/PJo-luv aspects.

    Maybe it's just because it makes me so sad to see someone who defines themselves by hate!

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    • #47
      Heh. I started reading it before I realized I knew who the author was, and I kept thinking they were being a little harsh on Dawson.

      And making me think that proves just how WRONG that woman is.
      "But my greatest pain in life is that I will never be able to see myself perform live.”---Kanye

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      • #48
        Miss Linda Glory Alli lost me at naming Vaughn a good boyfriend. Uh...no. Obviously, she forgot that he dumped the woman he was seeing without notice to jump straight into bed with Syd and waited only a few months before jumping into a marriage with someone after he thought Syd was dead.

        Not to mention her Jordan Catalano analysis--as mentioned previously--is way off. Being in a bad is the hotness, yo.

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        • #49
          Originally posted by diesel
          Maybe it's just because it makes me so sad to see someone who defines themselves by hate!
          Clinging desperately on Dawson hating doesn't mean that one defines themself by hate, but it just shows how lame they are that they can't even get a new hate.

          And while I know how people's opinions differ, I know for a fact that people who doesn't think being in a band is hot, are just plain crazy.

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          • #50
            You wouldn't think Leif Garrett would inspire such drama, but this is a fascinating read!



            TUESDAY, APRIL 20, 1999. NEW YORK CITY. LEIF Garrett is due to appear on live nationwide television for the first time in 20 years, as Rosie O'Donnell dedicates her show to him.

            Of course, the date will be better remembered by the general public as the day of the Columbine Massacre. Rosie is pre-empted across most of the country.

            Leifettes are horrified by their reaction. "I think I am gonna cry!!! I have been waiting for this day for soooo long, to finally see Leif again and to hear his new music . . . only to be pre-empted by news. I WANT TO SCREAM!!! . . . I don't mean to sound insensitive to what happened with the shootings and all, my heart goes out to those people, it's a senseless tragedy, but I WANTED TO SEE AND HEAR LEIF."
            Seriously, it's long, but you MUST read it all! Especially the part about fans meeting up only to stalk the wrong house and discover one of them is truly psycho! BWAH!
            Last edited by NeoMaxy; 04-18-2004, 12:57 AM.
            "But my greatest pain in life is that I will never be able to see myself perform live.”---Kanye

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            • #51
              Slayage has posted their latest round of scholarly what-not. This one was verray interesting:

              "It’s About Power": Spoilers and Fan Hierarchy in On-Line Buffy Fandom

              Excerpts:
              However, fans can also marginalise and ‘other’ within a particular fan culture. Therefore, fandoms can no longer be seen as utopian, as was the trend with early academic work, such as Camille Bacon-Smith’s assertion that "the media fan community has no established hierarchy" (1992:41), but rather should be viewed as "a social hierarchy where fans share a common interest while also competing over fan knowledge, access to the object of fandom, and status" (Hills, 2002:46).
              Therefore, it is crucial for online fans to try to ‘know’ the spoiler sources (although it is open to debate how much one can really ‘know’ another on-line persona) and to win their favour. This is attempted through a mix of friendliness, gratitude, flattery (often bordering on obsequiousness), regular posting and sometimes personal E-mail communication.
              This statement connotes that the spoiled are in some way reprehensible and that the unspoiled are innocent of such ‘sinful’ indulgence and decadence. It therefore assumes a negative stance towards spoilers, devaluing the spoiled fans and simultaneously privileging the unspoiled as stronger and more restrained, whilst also patronisingly labelling them as naïve and helpless.
              This was also nice:
              Through such rules, the executive fans who run these sites can strictly govern topics of conversation and control debate through these "benign dictatorships" (Smith and Kollock, 1999:5) which allow the owners to exercise control but with the informed consent of other fans.
              Some dictatorships, it may be noted, are more benign than others.

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              • #52
                I read the most amazing story today about two guys that *really* love Mr. T!

                http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...602205_pf.html

                It almost made me cry because it was at turns poignant and hysterical. LOVE it.

                They have a website: www.mrtandme.com!
                It’s just really honestly so tiring and emotionally draining to have to get upset over reality constantly.

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                • #53
                  OMB I must. have. a doll.

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                  • #54
                    Not sure where to put this . . .a BNF (hee! I can use the lingo!) from BtVS and Whedon related fandoms has written a book about her adventures in fandom.

                    http://emahollywood.com/synopsis.html

                    WILL THE VAMPIRE PEOPLE PLEASE LEAVE THE LOBBY?is a book about my experiences in internet communities, specifically, the communities, or fandoms, dedicated to cult television shows like Buffy the Vampire Slayer, Angel, and Firefly. Similar in style to David Sedaris' work about his family, this is about my family whom I rarely see face-to-face and communicate with through a glowing box plugged into the wall.
                    She and another BNF have also started a company (http://emahollywood.com/) based on event planning for fandoms, and Save Our Show campaigns. I'm almost impressed at the entrepreunerial spirit. Or at least I would be if there didn't seem to be some kind of within-fandom gloryhounding going on. She sounds so bittah when her erstwhile efforts are "forgotten" by the fandom! Or when they *shocker* don't seem to know who she is!

                    Kristen and I found ourselves essentially erased from Firefly's fandom story, and a goodly portion of the fans who would sell their mothers into a sex slave ring to score tickets to an early screening of the flick have never heard of either of us. As more fans discovered Firefly through the DVDs and more internet communities dedicated to Firefly popped up on the 'net, the history of the campaign was watered down and our roles in it seemed to be forgotton by everyone.
                    They do seem to have done quite a bit of nice charity fundraising and whatnot, though.

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                    • #55
                      Aww. I think we all know what it's like to have fandom glory and, when the dust settled, realize most people remember Mandy, the Josh-crazy that wears her "Pacey" outfit -- complete with sandles! -- around her house.

                      Le sigh.

                      I think the charity work is nice but I prefer to make fun of people.
                      It’s just really honestly so tiring and emotionally draining to have to get upset over reality constantly.

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                      • #56
                        Kerfuffle in The Office fandom. Not that interesting on its face, but then I realized that it involves the same Honey Wheeler that Is mentioned on Creek Freaks the other day. She is a little nutbag, huh?

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                        • #57
                          Ooh, interesting to ME! I know the work of all parties involved (since I skim the Office fandom) and the "Queen Bees" really have set themselves apart from the rest. I can't entirely blame them as most of the Office Fen are like the worst of the Pacey Goo Creak Freaks of yore but the QBs are so emotionally invested in their own coolness that they come off as sort of over the top (I'm guessing I should be having some sort of, "OMG! I was JUST LIKE THAT" moment but I'm ignoring it so fuck that).

                          That said, NeverEnoughJam writes for shit so good riddance. Most of the JAM fic writers are newbies and woefully sensitive to crit.

                          That said, Honey_Wheeler and her pack's need to write fics about Toby and Michael being ex-lovers (and that is why Michael hates Toby) is sort of lame anyway. She tries too hard and exhausts me. And her constant shit flinging (which I mentioned above) is tedious at best.

                          I like the Warning Labels series (even if I find the contrivances wildly improbable) but the best writer of the bunch is the quiet one--Obsession Inc.--that bitch can write believable. Even her entry to Warning Labels is the only one of the series that feels pretty well in character.

                          So, yes, Honey Wheeler is a high drama nut.

                          ETA: The writer that seemed to really get the bullying rally going is nomadshad. Decent fic writer, when compared to the general population of Office peeps but she doesn't have a handle of the voices the way others do. I seriously think that Obsession Inc story is one of the best fics I've read ever. She's not prolific, sadly.
                          Last edited by isadora; 01-08-2007, 12:47 PM.
                          It’s just really honestly so tiring and emotionally draining to have to get upset over reality constantly.

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                          • #58
                            Damn you people for making want to go back and read Office fic again! I thought I was done with all that.

                            It's both funny and inevitable to see wank here in this relatively new fic community. The cicle of wank, she continues.

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                            • #59
                              Honey Wheeler!

                              I know nothing of the American Office, its fandom, or its fanfic, but I appreciate a Trixie Belden reference when I see one.

                              And, bonus, Miss Alli continues to let her cuntitude shine on through.

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                              • #60
                                Hee. NeverEnoughJam didn't leave the internets. She just went all sockpuppety.

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