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    How do we not have a celebrity deaths general thread?

    Kate Spade and Anthony Bourdain got me shook, y'all.
    Itís just really honestly so tiring and emotionally draining to have to get upset over reality constantly.

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    And they both used the same method! Is this another one of those things that has to happen in threes? I really hope not.

    Kate Spade's note to her daughter was very odd. I mean, she must have just wanted to reassure her that none of it was her fault, but the "Ask daddy" part is a weird thread to leave between your kid and her only living parent. But that set aside, both of these reports gave me the sads. RIP.

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    • #3
      I just gave my little cousin her first Kate Spade for her high school grad gift, and I gave the hubs Kitchen Confidential for Christmas. Ugh.

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      • #4
        How do we not have a celebrity deaths general thread?
        We do. Itís over in Whatnot.

        That said, this Kate Spade thing has me sad. I read Kitchen Confidential some years ago, but never felt a kinship with Bourdain, but I have some fancy Kate Spade sunglasses that I love. I read something really correct about her - she made women feel like grownups.

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        • #5
          Originally posted by IssieCol View Post
          And they both used the same method! Is this another one of those things that has to happen in threes? I really hope not.
          She's not really a famous name herself, obviously, not in this part of the world, but it actually kind of did happen in 3- Queen Maxima's, (the Queen of Holland) little sister killed herself this week too, apparently also using the same method. It was after Kate Spade but before Anthony Bourdain. She was only 33.

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          • #6
            Bourdain upset me more than Spade but both bummed me out.

            Kate Spade moved us from men's clothing at work to being able to be both adult and feminine. Her designs were whimsical but adult. I like most of her stuff.

            Bourdain's death kinda hit me harder than expected. I read his books, and my husband is a huge fan of his shows so I'd seen a ton of his output over the years. And he had a real love of humanity that came through everything he did. And, in recent years, through his relationship with Asia Argento, he really started to understand the world through womens' eyes. All of those things made me like him more and that, coupled with all the stores of his generosity and charm when off-camera had me very, very sad.
            Itís just really honestly so tiring and emotionally draining to have to get upset over reality constantly.

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            • #7
              Bourdain's ex wife had had an affair with this genius competitive grappler. Word in the bjj community is he was crushed when she left him. It's unclear if they had an open marriage at first or what but still. He was taking private classes in grappling as far back as a 2,3 days before the suicide. Very unfortunate, everybody liked him. Consensus is he was a good person on and off camera

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              • #8
                Karl Lagerfeld, yo. He was ridiculous and fab, but I also hated all the blase ugliness he said about the Me Too movement and people who arenít a size -2, so, I mean, Iím sad for DK.

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                • #9
                  And his refugee comments were also mega cringe. He said some terrible things and was never apologetic, even after being made aware that his comments were inappropriate. It's been interesting to see all the proclaimed feminists like Chastain and Cara D get dragged in the comments section of their eulogistic insta posts. He was super lovely to them because they're skinny, beautiful, rich, white, and famous and I legit don't think it ever occurs to them that he wouldn't be so great and welcoming if they were none of those things. Cara tried to be all like, "He was born like a hundred years ago, times were different!!!" But then she got lit up because grandpas can still be called out for their problematic views and if they still refuse to adjust to the times, they can be criticized posthumously.

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                  • #10
                    Jameela!


































                    Just another talented asshole who doesn't deserve canonization just for dying. I mean, anyone can do that.

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                    • #11
                      I love that Jameela doesn't give an inch when she knows her shit. Cara doesn't really know how to process her grief over losing an asshole that she loved.

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                      • #12
                        I just read the entire Twitter exchange and yeah, Cara, you can be sad but also acknowledge that olí Grandpa was crazy awful to everyone else except you and people who look like you.

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                        • #13
                          It's weird that "nice to me personally" = "great guy, period" for so many people? You can say: He was great to me but I totally understand why people who didn't know him personally found his hot takes troubling.

                          Itís just really honestly so tiring and emotionally draining to have to get upset over reality constantly.

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