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  • ophy
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    If you fast forward the D/E stuff (and anytime Tyler was around), this was a very enjoyable episode.


    I'm still on board for all things Forbes and all things Forbes/Stefan. Liz and Caroline are going to make me cry every week until Liz finally kicks it. Totes okay with that. This isn't how I pictured Steroline becoming a couple (and Paul has got to be bored silly with Stefan The Comforter), but eh. Whatever.

    What is up with daylight rings being so easy to get, though? All through S1-S3 they were kinda a big deal that only Bennett witches could do . . . which meant very very very few vampires even knew they existed and they were 'special'. But in S5/6 we've got Enzo walking around in daylight with ZERO explanation for how/when/why he has a ring, AND Alaric the same thing . . . he came back from the dead a vampire, but Bonnie was already stuck in 1994, so where the heck did his ring come from? AND NOW JO IS LIKE TRA LA LA YEAH HERE'S YUR STOOOPID RING ELENA LOL. Cheapens everything vampire, tbh.


    Oh! And how did Tyler wake up? Did the drugs just run out or something? He should have stayed in the same coma Kai was in. Having him pop up just in time to save Liv yet again was straining credulity.

    Seriously though,Tyler is so useless and unlikeable this season. My interest in him has gone negative. His storyline used to revolve around Caroline, now it revolves around a different curly haired blonde. And he's just over the top shrill and rage-y! I don't get it. WHY IS TYLER WHY.

    Kinda hope Kai kills him, tbh. They told us not everyone would be going to S7, right? And we know Liz is dunzo and Jeremy is dunzo . . . but I'm wondering if they are going to save Tyler's death for a surprise. Kai has to keep the body count rolling to continue being a viable villain, and Tyler would be an easy sacrifice to make for that endeavor.








    Okay, rants over.



    According to next week's promo (we don't care about spoilers anymore, therefore I don't care about putting stuff in the spoiler thread), Kai is going to help Elena, Damon and Jeremy communicate with/save Bonnie.


    http://youtu.be/4DvFdOahufA



    That is strangely awesome? But mostly just strange, since . . . why? Kai had four stated objectives:


    1) Get out of Prison 1994: check
    2) Learn how to use the internet: check
    3) Merge with sibling and win: check
    4) Hunt down Gemini coven and give them all a bloody death . . . .


    He should be off accomplishing #3, not hanging around the SBH with losers he doesn't care about, to save some other loser he doesn't care about.












    Just wondering what kind of leverage they still have to keep Kai in town and! doing favors for them.








    Spec on tumblr/twitter is that the merge was Plec and co's way of altering the fundamental nature of Kai. They made a point of saying that the merge results in a blending of souls into somebody new, not just a binary winner/loser equation. In theory, we have given up some indefinable amount of Kai's snarky psycopath-ousity for Luke's ability to love and be self-sacrificing. And voila! magically overnight, Kai is able to grow and change as a character.


    This could be true?















    I know we had specced that they would soften Kai by turning him, but making him the uber powerful witch leader of a coven who hates him is even better than just another pointless vamp on a show where the vamps ceased being scary a couple of seasons ago.

    Ian and Paul both said that Chris had "some really good stuff coming up", and watching Kai gain a soul and a conscience as a kind of Kai-Luke hybrid might be what they were referring to. He could actually become *more* dangerous once he has to deal with guilt over what he's done -- for awhile, anyway. If he stops liking himself and starts hating himself, we could see some major fireworks.


    And Plec REALLY loves woobifying her bad guys by having them bottom out first in some kind of major breakdown. Without the woobifying, she won't keep them around for multiple seasons. It's a decent tradeoff, I guess, maybe? Not ideal, because I'd kinda rather keep Kai unrepentantly magnificently murderpuppy forever, but I guess that's not the TVD way. If a woobie Kai-Luke is the only way Chris stays employed and on my teevee, I can make my peace with that.



    Of course, the way Julie most likes to achieve woobification is saving the Bad Guy through the power of a Good Girl, which is probably the real reason they are sending SMQ off the show. There are a surprising number of BonKai shippers out there, and they are very vocal. Since Caroline and Elena are both too tied up to be of redemption-by-vagina service, Bonnie would make the most practical sense. I can get behind a Good Witch/Bad Witch romance, why not. I feel sure Chris can sell it.
















    ETA

    This whole cancer storyline is kinda offensive given how it's been utilized to catapult a couple of romances that didn't need the catalyst.
    Yeah, it's kind of gross. If Candice Accola wasn't such a fabulous cry-er, I'd be less into this whole thing. As it is, I love her face and I love it sad, so I'm overlooking the gross parts.

    As for the D/E aspects, it doesn't really matter what they use to drag this flaccid ship around and prop it up. I'm too far past caring.
    Last edited by ophy; 01-30-2015, 02:34 PM.

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  • isadora
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    Did Sheriff Forbes fake!die just to get Delena back together? Because REALLY? It didn't even bring Steroline closer to have HER mom fake!die. And then to have Caroline's mom be the catalyst to "move on" with Stefan? I mean, Caroline's pretty great without having to make a deathbed promise to her mom to be there for her.

    This whole cancer storyline is kinda offensive given how it's been utilized to catapult a couple of romances that didn't need the catalyst.

    Ugh, shut up Tyler. Like alllll episode.

    But excellent of them to give Luke a send-off, since he's the least important witch! And Kai is supervillain! Wheeeee!

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  • ophy
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    Everything you said!


    Especially . . .

    That said, Our New Boyfriend is the ONLY person not phoning it all in!

    I thought Candice (and her tv mama) both did an excellent job (they made me cry, so), but otherwise, yeah.

    The Trio is beset with character drift problems up the old wazhoo. Damon is a caricature of himself now (much like Ian has become a caricature of himself), Stefan is Sir Grumpsalot GFY just running out the clock, and Elena has suddenly become an inappropriate live-in-the-moment prankster who is REALLY obvious about how she fancies bad boys.


    That prank with the stake was soooo something Nina would do that I thought it was an ad lib they accidentally left in.


    it would have been awesome if he needed her blood for a valid reason and then tortured her just for fun.

    Yeah, this is what I was hoping for. I wanted them to have a good reason for Kai needing to drag Elena around him all the time, for many episodes.

    You know what part we didn't see? There was a scene in the promo where Kai was supposed to say, "I always win" out in the parking lot. Hoping that's still coming in a future ep, I guess. I do not look kindly on people cutting out Kai scenes just so we can have lingering limp D/E stares.


    And the heart eyes! JFC, Nina Dobrev is the worst actress. She wet her panties when he rubbed his thumb on her face and I was like: Um, I'm just gonna take this as more evidence for how effed up Elena is and let Nina off the hook.

    I honestly don't know what the editor was thinking when they left that stuff in there. It says something SO WEIRD about Elena, that she was REALLY FUCKING ENJOYING that moment.









    HE LICKED HIS FINGER AND SHE LIKED IT.










    And Paul is just over there in the corner, wearing the director's hat, watching Nina and Chris being flirty.





    You just know Paul was all, "Ian is going to HATE THIS. YASSS."


    He's the Original Woodbrev Shipper.






    But yeah, the fact that they left in so many frames of Nina's Chris-related heart eyes, means that the rest of the footage they had to work with was even *worse*, you know? She probably crawled right into his lap.

    No wonder these two were 'iceskating' within weeks of filming this scene. Rockstar boyfriend bedamned.


    Enzo is such a bore. Wow, if he's getting screen time still just by being a charming actor/human? Then Christopher Wood is the big bad for the rest of the series unless Ian has THAT MUCH pull with the network.


    From your keyboard to Plec's ear!







    #WakeUpKai
    Last edited by ophy; 01-25-2015, 07:45 AM.

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  • isadora
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    I love a good Drakkar Noir joke!

    Finally got to watch this today and had the following thoughts: I completely forgot Elena can't remember her love of Damon. Heh. Doesn't seem to be slowing the writers down, tho, does it?

    So, a vampire bite can't cure cancer? Sure, okay. It can literally stitch up severed organs but repairing a few cells is impossible. Sounds legit. Also, I couldn't help but think that If Sheriff Forbes knew what Damon did to Caroline? OMG. She would stake him. So their friendship has always been weird for me. In other news, Sheriff Forbes looked super pretty this episode.

    This show has somehow made Steroline totally boring and weird? And Stefan just seems bored and surly? I'm guessing that's actor personality creeping in? That, and listless writing. That said, Our New Boyfriend is the ONLY person not phoning it all in!

    I didn't get what was going on plot-wise but Christopher Wood seemed to just be having a great time and relished the insanity of his character. He might be the only reason I'm still watching this season. That said, it would have been awesome if he needed her blood for a valid reason and then tortured her just for fun.

    And the heart eyes! JFC, Nina Dobrev is the worst actress. She wet her panties when he rubbed his thumb on her face and I was like: Um, I'm just gonna take this as more evidence for how effed up Elena is and let Nina off the hook,

    I guess. And her BIZARRE "prank" on Damon at the end? Wow that was weird as hell.

    I LOL'd at Kai's Rikki Lake reference.

    Enzo is such a bore. Wow, if he's getting screen time still just by being a charming actor/human? Then Christopher Wood is the big bad for the rest of the series unless Ian has THAT MUCH pull with the network.

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  • ophy
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    Price recap! for 6.11:

    http://www.tv.com/shows/the-vampire-...-142196871186/







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  • ophy
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    Look, I like Steroline just as much as the next guy, but NOOOOOOOOOPE.


    Of all people, Plec should know better.



    http://www.eonline.com/news/617265/w...acey-and-joey?




    re Stefan and Caroline the new Pacey and Joey? If you're a TV fan, you definitely know this is a big deal. Huge. And you've also probably made the comparison before, as Stefan (Paul Wesley) and Caroline (Candice Accola) on The Vampire Diaries are definitely following in the iconic footsteps of Dawson's Creek's Pacey (Joshua Jackson) and Joey (Katie Holmes).

    But does the woman who actually worked on both shows (and both relationships) see and welcome the comparison between the two couples?

    "Absolutely, I welcome them," the CW hit's executive producer Julie Plec, who worked onDawson's Creek, tells E! News. "I welcome them."


    in fact, it's a comparison she saw before the fans even noticed that there might be something growing between Stefan and Caroline, his former girlfriend Elena's (NIna Dobrev) BFF. (Sorry, Elena, you are the Dawson in this scenario!)

    "I remember the day that I knew it was a friendship that was meant to grow and grow and grow and see if we could go anywhere with it," Plec says, "And that was episode two of season two." Fans will remember that is the episode in which Stefan helped Caroline with her transition into becoming a vampire.

    But will Stefan and Caroline's friendship eventually take a turn for the romantic? If Pacey and Joey's journey was a slow-burn, the Vampire Diaries' pair's has been a glacial one.

    "I think that they're going to be rooted in a deep, deep friendship," Plec says. "And so it's really just a matter of can that friendship turn romantic or not?"



    Although, I do buy Elena as the Dawson, that's fair.




    The people in the comments are not amused.



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  • ophy
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    For all you Kailena shippers, a little AU:


















    (source: http://bigbadvampire.tumblr.com/post...with-compelled)

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  • isadora
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    It's a Tumblr tag that appears to feature people who ship Damon and Bonnie and Stefan and Caroline. I don't understand the portmanteau. Perhaps "bel" is like "Bye Elena"? Heh, I DO NOT KNOW.

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  • ophy
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    belvatore? WTF does that mean, o?

    What are you talking about, dude? Where did you see 'belvatore'? The only thing it brings to mind for me is some kind of bizarro Bella Swan/Salavtore Bros sandwich, and ain't nobody wanna see that.

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  • isadora
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    belvatore? WTF does that mean, o?

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  • Velvetkiss
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    I am glad to see I am not the only one who LOVED when Kai sucked up all the traveler magic and I am happy they are allowed back to Mystic Falls. I am not sure about why vamp blood can not cure cancer, I mean if it can make you immortal, how can it not cure cancer and yes I agree if she is so sick, just turn her into a vampire and problem solved. I agree they are investing on building up this Gemini coven thing and I do not care about them or have any investment in them. I do not really like the characters Liv, Luke and Jo, they are just ok to me, not really invested in their futures either. I am hoping finally Bonnie will come home now that Kai has magic, as then maybe they will need a Bennett witch. The scenes from January make me hope they are going to give Elena a new Love interest. I mean if Ian is the hold out, that would be a perfect way to keep the show for more seasons and get rid of him.

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  • isadora
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    UGH, I hope they offer and she declines. NO MORE VAMPIRES.

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  • dada_teacher
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    Well, and even if it's true that vampire blood can't cure cancer (why not????) they could always turn Liz into a vampire.

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  • isadora
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    Nina seems downright repulsed in her scenes with Ian this season! It is kinda giving me life.

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  • ophy
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    When Kai was sucking up all the Traveler magicks through the dirt, I was cheering on the inside. BIG EVIL YES.

    This ep was moderately enjoyable. Was on board with how morally flexible Liv is about trussing up her sister and forcing her to do something dangerous with a psycho, but I don't get at all why it's so frakkin important that this Gemini coven that we care nothing at all about gets a freaking twin merged leader. Are we supposed to care? Do Dries and Plec think we care? We've spent loads of time getting to know and be invested in Kai and his agenda, but why the hell should we care about these dumb witches we don't really know at all? Such a weird narrative choice, I think.

    But hey, I'm glad it led to magic being allowed back into Mystic Falls. I had missed the SBH.

    Loved seeing the gals as high school babies, that was sweet. They do not make believable fifteen yr olds, but that is okay. Everything Bonnie made me a tiny bit teary in this ep.

    That Defan scene felt like it should have felt like something, but meh. I can't shake the feeling that Paul and Ian are just going through the motions this season.

    The other thing that is inexplicable . . . are they not even going to *try* to cure Liz with vamp blood? Bitch please. This ranks right up there with Jo saying she can't cure any more vamps of being vamps after Alaric got cured because reasons.

    Price's recap: http://origin.www.tv.com/shows/the-v...-141833482733/






    So there was this quick bit in the promo for next January's ep (which is chock full of Kailena, apparently):








    Hopefully when they edit that ep they will take out the frames where Elena is looking at Kai like she likes him a bit too much.





    Contrast that with how she was looking/not looking at Damon when *he* was touching her face:







    Nina! You are getting things all mixed up, darlin'.

    Last edited by ophy; 12-13-2014, 07:48 PM.

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