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  • That was the difference in S1-3. It was about the closeness of the friends - that they all did simple things together. It's as though these writers are writing for a different show. I don't think Elena had ever mentioned being a doctor. I think they turned her into a vampire too early - at least by a season or 2 as then they lost all the stuff to keep her alive which had everyone band together

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    • Delena killed the show, just as I predicted. The ratings have been crap since S4. Nina is only okay as an actress. Price (and ophy and all the new tedious Nian/Delena-turned-Dobrev stans that seem to post here now) massively overrate her skills. I think Kat Graham is better. I hate this show.
      Bitter Shipper

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      • He probs loves this show b/c he's an aspiring TV writing and he saw how profesh ass-kissing served Carina MacKenzie?

        Yeah, poor Price had his own show on Amazon for a brief moment before it got canned. It was funny, too. I think I was the only watching, though.

        Julie looooves Price, so I would not be surprised to see him come work for her someday. He's also one of Carina's besties.

        But interestingly, he seemed to realize he'd gone too far in his Nina worship in that piece, because he edited out the bit where he called her the best on 'any tv show'.

        It used to read:



        This is what it reads now:




        Delena didn't kill the show alone. Bad writing killed the show. I will always contend that they could have done interesting (and dark!) things with Delena if they'd had the balls. #ElenaTheBabyEater

        Or! If they had shifted focus to Steferine and done interesting things with them, perhaps. But TVD is just a graveyard of missed opportunities now.

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        • Killed it stone dead.
          Bitter Shipper

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          • I love Linda's hate.

            But I imagine regardless of shipping, sustaining 6 seasons of teen-oriented vampire show can't be all that easy. They all go bad eventually. I'm just glad the bad romantic choices of the stars has led to interesting gossip.

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            • Did Elena become a vamp in the books? I feel like, with the exception of o, everyone hated that shit.

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              • She did. She became a vamp pretty early on, I think? She also died as a vampire, and came back as an angel with crazy wacko powers. That was the one thing Plec promised *not* to do.


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                • They have created an internship program (TVD is one of the sponsors) in memory of Sarah Jones
                  http://deadline.com/2015/04/sarah-jo...on-1201414120/

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                  • 1.39 million viewers and an 0.6 rating again so matching last week - seems as though people are leaving already even before Nina has gone. TVD is now the 5th watched show on the CW - after The Flash, Arrow, iZombie (yep it's up to third), supernatural and then TVD (just before TO)

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                    • Last night's ep was freaking borefest. Even Steroline has become boring now, and I had such high hopes for that pairing.


                      I almost wish we'd never met a character like Kai, because every Kai-less ep just reminds me of how much better the Kai eps are, and how blah everyone else is.

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                      • Last nights episode was boring and aimless as the rest of the season has been. They are not doing a good job of pulling things together for the end of the season. They totally blew it with Steroline and Mama Salvatore and Enzo are boring and I have no interest. Plus why was Bonnie not included in the intervention of Caroline? I mean they all 3 were BFF's so why was she left out? What is up with them changing Elena so much? I know they need to find a way for her to leave, but really going out of character to me to get her there.

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                        • Such a boring episode. I probably won't watch again until the season is over.

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                          • Stills from . . . um . . . whatever ep number the Joalric wedding happens in. 6.21? I think?




























                            Haaaaaaate Elena's bridesmaid dress, but hey! Damon's suit fits! Why couldn't he have borrowed that for his own wedding?

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                            • I can't believe it's Elena's final episodes and they have given her literally nothing to do this entire season. It's SO WEIRD.
                              Itís just really honestly so tiring and emotionally draining to have to get upset over reality constantly.

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                              • I'm not sure the show runners knew how to write strong female characters without there being a ship in there somewhere. It's a pity. Elena had tons of potential - a strong teen who had lost all her family and in constant peril and they turned her story into being just about which brother she loved. And they killed off Katharine who was a great baddie.

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